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WW2 - World War II

It's been years since I watched this, but I remember really enjoying it.
"... let's go exploring!" -- CALVIN.
The original Suicide Squad.....


An absolute true classic. I probably rewatch this once a year.  It never gets old.  
It later spawned three tv sequels in the 80s and a short lived tv series.
"... let's go exploring!" -- CALVIN.
Another all time favourite... a comedy heist movie set in the middle of WWII....

KELLY'S HEROES 1970 starring Clint Eastwood.
"... let's go exploring!" -- CALVIN.
I might as well give my thoughts here Smile...

Darkest Hour (2018)

It's fine. It's not a masterpiece but I can't see anybody seriously thinking it's bad either. Gary Oldman's performance is very good, so good that I only occasionally got distracted by the heavy makeup and it giving me images of him being not Churchill but Fat-B*stard from Austin Powers, doing the voice of George from Rainbow.

Little anachronisms and stuff that's been dumbed-down for exposition purposes offer minor but forgivable irritations. For example, the first line (or one of the first) is the Speaker of the House of Commons introducing "The Leader of the Opposition, Clement Attlee" when that it should be "(Mr) Clement Attlee" or perhaps "The Leader of the Opposition", not both. 99% of the film takes place in smokey interiors, with 1% dodgy large-scale CGI shots that add nothing narratively and make the film look cheap, rather than more expensive. I'd have preferred if we saw nothing of the outside, to keep things really claustrophobic.

The big problem is the score, which is loud, overbearing and relentless. It doesn't just not serve the film, it's actively working against it. What should be dramatic pauses/silences between lines are scored like epic Hans Zimmer-style action-sequences. If the film has a clean center-channel it would be improved no end by a score replacement.

Many reviews have complained about one scene being misjudged...

...in which, just before his big "Never Surrender" speech, Churchill rides the Tube to Westminister to ask the common people what they would do. It is highly unlikely but I  thought it was totally valid dramatically. Shakespeare does a similar scene in Henry V, when the King tours his camp to talk to the common soldiers before his big speech.

The story has several parallels with Henry V I thought. So I couldn't help but think of this beautiful score:

To replace the frankly dreadful, tuneless score that Churchill's big speech is drowned out by in 'Darkest Hour'.
(01-27-2018, 07:32 PM)TM2YC Wrote: Little anachronisms and stuff that's been dumbed-down for exposition purposes offer minor but forgivable irritations. For example, the first line (or one of the first) is the Speaker of the House of Commons introducing "The Leader of the Opposition, Clement Attlee" when that it should be "(Mr) Clement Attlee" or perhaps "The Leader of the Opposition", not both.

Why so many historical movies refuse to use simple, elegant subtitled identification text, à la Thirteen Days, is beyond me. It's as if filmmakers think viewers will happily accept a bit of text saying "London, 1939" over a shot of 10 Downing Street, but if they put "Clement Attlee, Leader of the Opposition" in text under a shot of their actor, rather than having someone speak it out loud, we'll lose our sh*t!   Dodgy

Into the Storm

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On the DVD commentary, Into the Storm's filmmakers talk about not wanting their BBC/HBO movie to be a "Churchill's Greatest Hits" reel, but when one covers nearly all of WW2 in under two hours, that's not entirely avoidable, is it? This is a sort-of sequel to 2002's The Gathering Storm, with only that movie's writer and one of several producers returning. Brendan Gleeson and Janet McTeer are solid as the Churchills, as is Len Cariou as FDR, though I will always wish that Albert Finney and Vanessa Redgrave had returned from the earlier movie, and that Kenneth Branagh had reprised his Roosevelt from HBO's Warm Springs. Oh, well.

After a brief first bookend scene in which Churchills await the results of the the 1945 general election (conducted before the Pacific War even concluded!), the first twenty minutes race through the period recently covered in the whole of Darkest Hour, and the pace only accelerates from there. Still, the end result is a coherent and satisfying film, even if I can't help but wonder that, if the project had been undertaken in our current Peak TV/streaming age, it wouldn't have been a seven-part (at least) miniseries. Maybe someday...


PS. With some preliminary narration recorded, s̶h̶o̶o̶t̶i̶n̶  , er, editing on Film World War, a cinematic fictional collage of WW2, has begun at last! After the first four minutes of screen time, not counting opening titles and disclaimers, I've nearly reached the Battle of Troy. This... is going to take a while. Tongue
(Not WW2, but close enough)

Damn it - how the heck did I not discover this YouTube channel, The Great War, until just now? They've been doing mini-documentaries on a near-weekly basis since 2014, charting the hundredth anniversary progress of WW1 in real time. I remember thinking about exactly this opportunity way back in my college days, years earlier, and as I recall I kept my eye open for something just like this, but never found it. Balls; I would absolutely have been watching these videos the whole past four years:

Welp, maybe I'll track the 110th anniversaries next decade, and I suppose in the meantime there's some nine months of story yet to follow. And when the centenary of WW2 rolls around, I'll be following that, for sure.
Hitler: The Rise of Evil (2003) (US Amazon Video)

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This two-part, three-hour Canadian TV film depicting Hitler's Great War experience to his complete takeover of the German government features an all-star cast: Robert Carlyle, Matthew Modine, Julianna Margulies, Liev Schreiber, Peter Stormare, and even Peter O'Toole as the aging President Hindenburg. Carlyle is electric in the title role, and production values are solid. Much has been condensed and simplified to fit the running time, of course, but overall it's a first-rate primer on interwar German history. It's the sort of film one says "should be shown in high schools," without any negative connotations or condescension intended. A-
Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror (1942)

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After starring as Holmes and Watson in two 1939 films set in the original Victorian era, Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce's film series jumped to the (then) present day, allowing the legendary duo to fight Nazi goons and other wartime foes for 12 more features. This first entry runs just 66 minutes and, apart from some stock footage of destruction, is decidedly low-budget and small-feeling, taking place almost entirely at night and filmed in modest sound stages. Despite some oddly wavy hair, Rathbone is terrific; the film, not so much. The Hollywood production lacks authenticity, the story is thin, and the resolution in large part unexplained. Still, it's hard to argue with seeing Holmes and Watson matter-of-factly putting Hitler's thugs in their place. B-
Here are some more amazing stories. Inspiring, depressing, absurd.

Patton (1970). One of the Allies larger-than-life heroes. "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country."
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Soldier of Orange / Soldaat van Oranje (1977). While most civilians try to cope with the Nazi occupation in the Netherlands, some feel compelled to resist.
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A Bridge Too Far (1977). Richard Attenborough's large-scale, historically accurate account of the Dutch theater-of-war after D-Day.
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Das Boot (1981). The claustrophobic world of Germany's Sea Wolves in the Atlantic.
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Downfall / Der Untergang (2004). Evil in close-up.
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Merry Christmas, Mr Lawrence (1983). Tense co-existence of prisoners of war and Japanese camp commanders. Starring David Bowie.
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Operation Petticoat (1959). A light-hearted account of some absurdities of America's war in the Pacific.
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Has anybody brought up U-571 yet? That shit was awesome.

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