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Doctor Who - LastSurvivor - 02-22-2013

Moffat... still in charge.... showing no signs of leaving.. oh well, looks like my wishlist for 2013 is off to a bad start Wink

You know what I'd like? A complete reboot. I never thought I would say that, with all the history that the show has and having watched it religilously since the days of Tom Baker. Sign of the times I suppose.

Doctor Who - TomH1138 - 02-22-2013

IMO, Moffat writes the smartest, funniest and most suspenseful stories that the series has ever seen. I don't understand the endless bashing of him and saying how he's "ruined" the show.

And how would a reboot help? Whatever you don't like about Moffat's run won't be in the stories of the next Doctor with the next showrunner anyway.

Doctor Who - LastSurvivor - 02-23-2013

I just don't think his writing is smart at all. Sorry. I can imagine him watching from the wings with a smirk on his face as he succeeds in fooling us into thinking how clever he is. And, before anyone starts bashing me for my opinion, and remember, this is just my opinion, I do still like some of the shows in his tenure. They're just not ones which he has written! :-D

The last straw for me in terms of Moffat's so-called smart writing, came during the whole fiasco of a story around last season - the River Song being Amy's daughter etc... if you went back over the season, there was no logic holding anything together. It was nonsense. What annoyed me, is that Moffat actually believes he's an amazingly smart writer. I mean, Dan Brown has sold millions and millions of books... but a great, smart writer? Ahem.

Anyways, I can see that I'm in the minority on the thread - but I'm sticking by my opinion guys.

Doctor Who - TomH1138 - 02-23-2013

I don't think you're in the minority; that's what bothers me. All I read lately is people bashing him. And while I don't hold that personally against you, I think it's unfair to Moffat. So he had one story arc that didn't turn out very well, and suddenly all of the brilliant stories that he did beforehand don't mean anything to fans. Suddenly the man who wrote "Blink" and "Silence in the Library" and the amazing story arc of Season 5 is a lazy hack?

Alex Kingston is on Arrow this season. I've never heard any official confirmation of this, but I have a strong hunch that Moffat had a much longer plan for the River Song character that he found himself suddenly having to quickly truncate into one season. The abruptness of that story just doesn't fit with the rest of his writing. And now, in Season 7, he's back to writing good stuff.

Even at that, the worst Moffat script IMO is "The Day of the Moon," and it's still tons better than, say, "Love and Monsters," which is pretty much par for the course for Russell T. Davies' run in terms of its cheesiness.

Season Six left me scratching my head at the bizarreness of it, but at no point was I yelling instructions to the stupid characters onscreen, which I usually do for almost any Doctor Who from 1963 to 2009. (That doesn't mean I don't like things from those eras, but there was an awful lot of cheesiness in those days that people seem to have conveniently forgotten about.)

It's the Christopher Nolan phenomenon. He made a great movie in The Dark Knight, which made Internet fans worship him. Then he made The Dark Knight Rises, which is a very good film that has a few flaws. But because of those flaws, the whole Internet has turned on him. Now suddenly he's the worst director since Joel Schumaker. Really, people? REALLY? Must we go from one extreme to the other?

Neither Nolan nor Moffat are perfect writers because no one is perfect. And for that matter, many of the people throwing stones have never actually attempted to write a script themselves or put it out there for everyone to make fun of. It's impossible to please everybody all the time, and it's difficult to even please most of the people most of the time. I think both Moffat and Nolan deserve credit for getting it right a lot more often than most writers.

Of course, this isn't personally directed at you, LastSurvivor. You certainly are entitled to think otherwise, and you expressed your opinion politely. But I'm just frustrated with fandom in general. At first, the Internet brought fans together who would otherwise have never known each other. Now, it seems, the Internet is only for complaining and tearing others down.

Thus endeth my rant for the day.

Doctor Who - Hymie - 02-25-2013

I think you captured it perfectly. Moffat is a great writer, but because he chose to focus on River last season, many people got annoyed and now want to bash him. They blame him for all the problems of Who, even if things like split seasons are things that the BBC have directed and he has no say over them. I personally didn't like a lot of his stories in Season 6, as I think he was trying to write more like Davies and it just didn't work. This season he's reverted from that, and he wrote two really good stories so far (still up in the air on Snowmen).

Arrow has nothing to do with it. Moffat just chose to focus last season on River, and people who don't like her for what ever reason have taken that to be that he's a hack. Even Moff has admitted that perhaps he spent too much time with her last season, but nothing he does contradicts itself. People may not like it, but it not half of the nonsense that Davies did. Moffat literally had to spend his first season resetting the universe because of all the contradictions that RTD introduced into the show that conflicted with the old series and continuity.

Doctor Who - wolfcarnage - 02-27-2013

Moffat I give respect because after in 1988-1989 after Sylvester Mccoy and Ace went bye bye and the Master except the Doctor Who Magazine and eventually the audio books continued and stuff like Dimensions In Time Doctor Who Continued. I was very disappointed in the 50 years of Doctor Who on the BBC so far specials. What is missing the old doctors when they revealed the top 5 companions was it a shock that it was Martha- River, Rose, Donna and Pond? I mean come on .. no Romana or Leela or Zoe, wow! The specials showing extensive work of the doctor's episodes from that time period was exciting and cool that they played a old classic bbc episode, but then it was over- they started before the episode explaining the companion history and best clips of episodes, now they have this huge gap to Patrick Troughton they did not explain all the other Companions that some were killed in the Dalek Master Plan, etc. etc. I just wished they would have added some more info to the companions after the classic movie Aztecs etc. instead of just having cool info then the movie then over- IF there were time constraints. i hope they release this on DVD/Blu-ray with more and more Footage Smile But that is what Fan Edit's Do re construct it as it is meant too Smile)) I think it is interesting they are going to animate most of the lost footage. I cannot wait to see the Tenth Planet final result as i have 4 different versions already , Loose Cannon, Telesnaps etc. Already on pre-order. Smile Just wanted to put my two cents in Smile)))) Moffat has done alot and in 2005 I thought at first Doctor Who was doomed but this is for a broaDER AUdience as well now, kids and teens and the little K-9 with Sarah Jane.

Doctor Who - bionicbob - 03-17-2013

less than a week to go....

Doctor Who - TomH1138 - 03-18-2013

AWESOME trailer!

The premiere is the 30th, though, so it's a little less than two weeks, not one.

Doctor Who - bionicbob - 03-18-2013

TomH1138 Wrote:The premiere is the 30th, though, so it's a little less than two weeks, not one.

math bad...:p lol

Doctor Who - bionicbob - 03-23-2013

"I got a bad feeling about this..."

A bad case of dejavu.... haven't we already seen this before....?