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RE: Doctor Who - Handman - 02-20-2020
Yeah, series 7 was not the best the new show has to offer. Thankfully it got better.
RE: Doctor Who - wilhelm scream - 02-22-2020
Torchwood is on BBCiplayer! https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b006m8ln/torchwood
RE: Doctor Who - keithbk - 02-22-2020
(02-20-2020, 12:22 PM)Hymie Wrote:(02-19-2020, 02:30 PM)keithbk Wrote: I own the Doctor Who store in America (Who North America) and the current series has done nothing to increase the fanbase; it has only declined.
The last fiscally hot year for Doctor Who, as a retailer, was the 50th anniversary year (2013). Once Matt Smith exited in 2014, the series took a HUGE fanbase hit, which has only declined with the current Doctor.
This is NOT a review of any episodes, but merely an observation based on our own level of business. We have been in the Doctor Who business since 1998. Right now, things are very bad for us.
I'm sorry to hear the store is suffering, I have purchased a few items over the years from the store and have had no complaints but the lack of newer things has left me with little use to your store, unfortunately.
Do you think it has to do in the general public interest of the show or the fact that Character Options can't sell their toys in the US anymore? I think people truly underestimate that despite how good Capaldi was in the role, it hurt the brand as no one seemed to know how to market the show anymore with an older lead and a lack of merchandise hurts the general public's interest. Its amazing to think what a behemoth the show was during the Smith years in the USA, but after the 50th it seemed people moved on, likely to Star Wars or Game of Thrones.
Character made some questionable moves during the Matt Smith era with figures; they produced a lot of figures from weaker episodes, but failed to produce any for some of the better episodes. This resulted in an over-abundance of figures like Smilers, Peter the Winder, Hawthorne, Uncle, Peg Soldier, etc that no one really wanted. Meanwhile, we never got a Rory until AFTER he departed the program. Many shows that were superior had no figures released at all. Then they changed scales from 5.5" to the 3" figures. That is a story in and of itself.
Almost all of the US producers of product have dropped the license or scaled back. Character produces few figures, and often they end up being exclusives to stores like B&M in the UK. That makes it hard to obtain product.
We still see lots of audios released from Big Finish, a monthly magazine, but everything else is few and far between.
RE: Doctor Who - Hymie - 02-25-2020
Yeah, as a somewhat collector it really was disappointing to see how the line fizzled out during the era. I guess I got in at the right time as much of the line was already dead and I was able to get some really good deals on a number of things. I hope the line picks up again, but with the public sentiment the way it is lately it seems unlikely.
RE: Doctor Who - asterixsmeagol - 02-25-2020
Deadline Wrote:The BBC’s drama chief Piers Wenger has defended Doctor Who following a drop in ratings and a mixed reception from fans for Season 12 of the sci-fi drama. At a BBC drama even in London on Monday, Wenger was asked if he would consider resting Doctor Who given some of the malaise around the show, which is produced by BBC Studios and airs in the U.S. on BBC America. Wenger offered a strong rebuttal in which he argued that the Time Lord franchise, starring Jodie Whittaker and overseen by showrunner Chris Chibnall, is in fine fettle.
RE: Doctor Who - Hymie - 02-25-2020
The show is still high in the ratings, considering its been on for 12 years and gone through several leads, and is huge moneymaker for the BBC due to being able to sell it abroad. Not to mention the advertising it does to help move Classic Who products and other deals such as streaming rights. Even if interest still isn't nearly as broad as it once was, its still pretty steady and there is no reason why the BBC would want to lose a show like DW over the possibility of an unknown.
RE: Doctor Who - TomH1138 - 02-25-2020
Honestly, all the interest I've seen has been up this season from last. "Spyfall" and "Fugitive of the Judoon" finally seemed to generate some much-needed positive buzz, at least on the social media pages I've been following.
It seems like every single year, a news site claims that the ratings have fallen catastrophically, and ask (either rhetorically or to the head of the BBC) if the show is going to get cancelled. I've seen these articles constantly since I started watching over a decade ago. I think the news sites just like the clicks they get.
(But no harm in letting us know what's being said by Deadline. Thanks for sharing the link, Asterix!)
RE: Doctor Who - TM2YC - 02-25-2020
(02-25-2020, 11:58 AM)asterixsmeagol Wrote:Deadline Wrote:The BBC’s drama chief Piers Wenger has defended Doctor Who following a drop in ratings and a mixed reception from fans for Season 12 of the sci-fi drama. At a BBC drama even in London on Monday, Wenger was asked if he would consider resting Doctor Who given some of the malaise around the show, which is produced by BBC Studios and airs in the U.S. on BBC America. Wenger offered a strong rebuttal in which he argued that the Time Lord franchise, starring Jodie Whittaker and overseen by showrunner Chris Chibnall, is in fine fettle.
![[Image: 11f47af2f78a071866b08bb5aa1f8cf0.jpg]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/f4/7a/11f47af2f78a071866b08bb5aa1f8cf0.jpg)
I'm hoping next weeks episode lives up to the potential. Doctor + Master + Gallifrey + Cyber War
The official channel posted this terrific Gallifrey retrospective:
I hadn't realised that they'd kept a number of the same actors for different episodes, they've been so few and far between. Still got my fingers crossed that this time they'll bring it back permanently.
RE: Doctor Who - Zarius - 02-26-2020
(02-25-2020, 07:13 PM)TomH1138 Wrote: Honestly, all the interest I've seen has been up this season from last. "Spyfall" and "Fugitive of the Judoon" finally seemed to generate some much-needed positive buzz, at least on the social media pages I've been following.The Beeb said similar things in 1989. We all know what happened then.
It seems like every single year, a news site claims that the ratings have fallen catastrophically, and ask (either rhetorically or to the head of the BBC) if the show is going to get cancelled. I've seen these articles constantly since I started watching over a decade ago. I think the news sites just like the clicks they get.
(But no harm in letting us know what's being said by Deadline. Thanks for sharing the link, Asterix!)
As TM2YC indicated, it's all politics and trying to curry favour with the public because the Beeb are under threat from the goverment. What else is he going to say? He's not going to admit there's a problem, that isn't how the BBC operate. If they're going to cancel something, they'll say it's to "pursue new programming" or "open up the schedules", they'll never say "we're cancelling it because half the population of Britain thinks it's a bit s*it"
Social media is not a large representation of the country (thank goodness) and the buzz from Spyfall and Judoon had more to do with member berries than it did genuine storytelling.
Ratings are not healthy, the average consolidated figures are lower than they were last year, so you can't even rely on them for consistency when arguing against the absolutely petty live overnight figures. There is growing apathy towards the show, there are letter-writing campaigns being organised.
The show has been officially 'rested' several times in the Nu Who era, all without cancelling it. People thought the 18 month hiatus in Colin Baker's era was extreme? We've had it worse since then all without the show being axed.
I sadly think so long as the Beeb are committed to the programme that the fans will just accept anything that doesn't keep it off our screens for more than a year or two, regardless of diminished interest, as a 'victory', and won't dare challenge the show to step up a bit and take back the audience it's lost.
But them, there's no guarantee of anything...if the licence fee gets cut, so will Doctor Who. Wenger might not even have a job by the end of all the reviews coming up this spring, so his word isn't gospel either.
RE: Doctor Who - keithbk - 02-27-2020
(02-25-2020, 07:13 PM)TomH1138 Wrote: Honestly, all the interest I've seen has been up this season from last. "Spyfall" and "Fugitive of the Judoon" finally seemed to generate some much-needed positive buzz, at least on the social media pages I've been following.
It seems like every single year, a news site claims that the ratings have fallen catastrophically, and ask (either rhetorically or to the head of the BBC) if the show is going to get cancelled. I've seen these articles constantly since I started watching over a decade ago. I think the news sites just like the clicks they get.
(But no harm in letting us know what's being said by Deadline. Thanks for sharing the link, Asterix!)
It is not translating to retail sales.
During the Eccleston-Matt Smith era, we did 1 million in business every 14 months.
Now, we are struggling to do $20,000/month.
The merchandise license-holders have dropped to just a handful of remaining companies, and they rarely produce new product.
There is no demand.