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I started rewatching Spectre. It makes me miss those obviously fake back projection close-ups from the Roger Moore era. e.g. For Your Eyes Only. You knew which shots were Sir Rog in a nice warm studio and which were mindblowing shots of a heroic and/or insane stuntman hanging off the side of a real helicopter on location 200ft up. In Spectre it all looks like it might be CGI, or real, partly faked, or whatever = no excitement.
 

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The Living Daylights (1987)
Right off the bat, I like Dalton's Bond better than Moore's. He doesn't quite have the same effortless coolness that Connery does, but he at least seems like he's taking his job as a spy seriously. I can't quite tell if this Bond even likes his job. I get the feeling that he's good at it, and likes being good at it, but that he's more conflicted about if he actually likes what he does. His decision not to shoot Kara isn't just to annoy somebody like Moore's version would have, he disobeys the order because he has a gut feeling that something is wrong. He is visibily upset when 004 is killed in the opening scene, and again when Saunders is killed in Vienna. Beyond a few overly comedic moments with the car gadgets, the humour in this movie is much more muted than Moore, and I would say even more than with Connery or Lazenby. All in all, I really liked this movie.
 

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Oh I love The Living Daylights and Licence to Kill. Dalton is currently tied with Connery for me, and he could honestly top Connery someday for my ranking, although Craig is always at my top.
 

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License to Kill (1989)
Another strong outing from Dalton. The "rogue agent" story would feel more in place in the Mission: Impossible film series, and I can't help but think it might have had some infulence on them. The change of pace wasn't unwelcome this deep into the franchise. I don't really have that much else to say about the movie, except that I really wish we would have gotten a third movie from Dalton. I feel he was really getting the feel for what he wanted his version of the character to be.
 

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Looks like you've got yourself a Brosnan/Craig BINGE this weekend before you see NT2D...PREMIER'S DONE!

"time for a DAMN fine cup of coffee"
 

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GoldenEye (1995)
Although I had seen a couple of Connery's films on VHS when I was younger, GoldenEye was my first Bond film in theaters, and as such it holds a special place in my heart, and it remains my favorite Bond film to this day. I still think the story is quite good, and feels more like a Connery movie transposed into the post-Soviet era. Brosnan is also my favorite Bond actor, although this is the only one of his films I think is actually any good. He's got a little bit of Connery's debonair attitude, a little bit of Lazenby's smirk, a litte bit of Moore's humor, and a little bit of Dalton's rough edges. The only things that really stuck out to me on this rewatch were a couple of dodgy CGI effects, and the score, which has a lot of bad synth work, but the opening theme and title sequence are fantastic.
 

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I rewatched Spectre the other day in prep for my viewing of No Time to Die on Saturday morning. I actually quite like the film up until the point where Madeline gets kidnapped and there's the frankly ridiculous (even by Bond standards) chase sequence where Bond manages to rescue her in a plane with no wings left or a rudder for that matter. The film recovers a bit with the scenes between Madeline and Bond at L'American, but as soon as they go to Blofeld's hideout, the film begins to unravel again, with for me, a very disappointing portrayal of Blofeld by Christoph Waltz and then we get the whole brother reveal, followed by an extremely leaden and unsatisfying finale in London.

However, I'm glad I did watch it again. It's still one of my least favourite Bond films, but at least it will be fresh in my mind for when I see No Time To Die. Can't wait for Saturday and I pray they give Craig a good send off.
 

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GoldenEye (1995)
Although I had seen a couple of Connery's films on VHS when I was younger, GoldenEye was my first Bond film in theaters, and as such it holds a special place in my heart, and it remains my favorite Bond film to this day. I still think the story is quite good, and feels more like a Connery movie transposed into the post-Soviet era. Brosnan is also my favorite Bond actor, although this is the only one of his films I think is actually any good. He's got a little bit of Connery's debonair attitude, a little bit of Lazenby's smirk, a litte bit of Moore's humor, and a little bit of Dalton's rough edges. The only things that really stuck out to me on this rewatch were a couple of dodgy CGI effects, and the score, which has a lot of bad synth work, but the opening theme and title sequence are fantastic.

I rewatched Spectre the other day in prep for my viewing of No Time to Die on Saturday morning. I actually quite like the film up until the point where Madeline gets kidnapped and there's the frankly ridiculous (even by Bond standards) chase sequence where Bond manages to rescue her in a plane with no wings left or a rudder for that matter. The film recovers a bit with the scenes between Madeline and Bond at L'American, but as soon as they go to Blofeld's hideout, the film begins to unravel again, with for me, a very disappointing portrayal of Blofeld by Christoph Waltz and then we get the whole brother reveal, followed by an extremely leaden and unsatisfying finale in London.

However, I'm glad I did watch it again. It's still one of my least favourite Bond films, but at least it will be fresh in my mind for when I see No Time To Die. Can't wait for Saturday and I pray they give Craig a good send off.
I just can't recover from STAR TREK DISCOVERY'ESQUE Half Brother Nonsense...I hop e that does not undermine NT2D...
 

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Dalton is second best Bond for me, after Connery. I like both his films, but I prefer LTK, as TLD kind of has a few moments that still feel like Moore script leftovers, and the third act is pure Rambo III territory. LTK, though, is Bond as his darkest and toughest.

Agreed about your assessment of Goldeneye. A really good one, by far Brosnan's best, but with arguably the worst score of the series dragging it down a few notches. I'm here hoping for a score replacement fanedit (if the center channel is clear enough).
 

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I just can't recover from STAR TREK DISCOVERY'ESQUE Half Brother Nonsense...I hop e that does not undermine NT2D...
Ugh! The Bro-feld stuff was EPIC FAIL. I quite liked Spectre otherwise, though. I felt it had the overall flavor of a classic Bond movie, after Skyfall trying WAY too hard to be The Dark Knight.
 

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I just wished they had followed thru on the set up from Casino Royale into Spectre with the whole "coalition of evil" bizness with al ittle more commitment..but HEY, it is what it is..
 

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Dalton is second best Bond for me, after Connery. I like both his films, but I prefer LTK, as TLD kind of has a few moments that still feel like Moore script leftovers, and the third act is pure Rambo III territory. LTK, though, is Bond as his darkest and toughest.

Agreed about your assessment of Goldeneye. A really good one, by far Brosnan's best, but with arguably the worst score of the series dragging it down a few notches. I'm here hoping for a score replacement fanedit (if the center channel is clear enough).
Dalton is easily my preferred 007. He's the only actor to basically nail the character as written by Fleming... he's tough, but shows his fallibility and emotional side in spades. I so wish he had got at least one more film, but I can rewatch Living Daylights and Licence to Kill at any time. Overall, I prefer Licence to Kill, but that damn love triangle in the film is dreadful. Living Daylights feels a more rounded film somehow.

Goldeneye is terrific... right up there with the best Bond films for me. It's brilliantly directed by Martin Campbell, and I love the story. True, Eric Serra's music score does feel somewhat ill fitting at times, but strangely I much prefer it to Thomas Newman's boring scores for Skyfall and Spectre. There hasn't been a good Bond score since Quantum of Solace for my money... why they don't just bring back David Arnold and let him get on with it, I really don't know. Had a listen to Zimmer's score for NTTD today... better than Newman's dreary mess, but still not stellar Bond for me.
 

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I watched NT2D yesterday evening and have to say It was definitley the right end to the series. Movie didn´t felt long (despite 18x min) but i have my trouble with it regarding the script. Action is or at least seems more real/practical. The portrayal of Bonds character is a bit deeper than in previous films = i liked it.
In my personal view it takes the third/fourth place out of the 5 movies.
 

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Dalton is easily my preferred 007. He's the only actor to basically nail the character as written by Fleming... he's tough, but shows his fallibility and emotional side in spades. I so wish he had got at least one more film, but I can rewatch Living Daylights and Licence to Kill at any time. Overall, I prefer Licence to Kill, but that damn love triangle in the film is dreadful. Living Daylights feels a more rounded film somehow.

Goldeneye is terrific... right up there with the best Bond films for me. It's brilliantly directed by Martin Campbell, and I love the story. True, Eric Serra's music score does feel somewhat ill fitting at times, but strangely I much prefer it to Thomas Newman's boring scores for Skyfall and Spectre. There hasn't been a good Bond score since Quantum of Solace for my money... why they don't just bring back David Arnold and let him get on with it, I really don't know. Had a listen to Zimmer's score for NTTD today... better than Newman's dreary mess, but still not stellar Bond for me.
Danzac/Brocolli's obsession with "re-inventing", not using the gun barrel for a couple of movies, dicking around with the scoring, breaking their own canon ...and almost denying themselves access to their own legacy and tropes is bizarre by all means be creative and do things in new and interesting ways. Yes remove the myogenic tropes and the like..but this is BOND, Not Mission Impossible or Bourne etc.... REAP WHAT YOU HAVE SOWN for crying out loud...
It's like doing Trek with out Transporters and Warp Speed...
 

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Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
Brosnan's second outing opens almost as strong as his first, but even stealing a fighter jet armed with nuclear bombs doesn't quite beat the record-breaking bungee jump in GoldenEye. The theme song and X-ray opening sequence are also quite good, but again not quite as good as GoldenEye. The return of a tradtional score was a step up, but the score itself isn't anything special, just not bad this time. I had rememebered thinking the rest of the movie was kind of boring and ridiculous, but other than Carver being a little too obviously evil, the manipulation of news actually was a lot more intriguing in 2021 than 1997. I still don't love the movie, but it's more middle-of-the-pack than I would have ranked it before the rewatch. Some more bad CGI (notably the drill mechanism on the torpedo) was the worst part of the movie, but not bad enough to be a hinderance to the story. I also didn't reallly like rehashing the "M doesn't have balls BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN!" joke from last time.
 

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I think it was in a separate James Bond thread that I posted last year we were heading the Jungfrau valley where OHMSS was filmed. We rescheduled the trip three times due to COVID-19 but we’re finally here. We bought the Top of Europe rail pass but the Piz Gloria (the lair from OHMSS) is a separate fare and we decided it wasn’t worth it. We spent the day in Mürren however and I did the Mürren to Gimmelwald via ferrata which was amazing. Lots of Bond buzz around here right now, though there probably always is as it’s a selling point.
 

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The World Is Not Enough (1999)
What a great opening! Action right off the bat, we got a hidden bomb, the best boat chase in the series, a beautiful opening sequence, and a fantastic theme song. Things stay pretty strong through the Q/R scene, Desmond Llewelyn's last in the role (he died a few months after this movie was released). I like Ben Whishaw well enough, but I wouldn't have minded John Cleese carrying over into the Craig series along with Judi Dench. Unfortunately, we still have 100 minutes to go in the movie, and it's a steady decline to the end. The premise of the bullet slowly traveling into Renard's brain and muting his senses never sat well with me, and it doesn't explain how he atually survives what he does to himself. Analgesia is a real disorder (usually congenital), but it's a major problem not a superpower. Add on to the terrible premise that Denise Richards may be the weakest actor in the whole series (and that's saying something), and you're left with one of the overall worst movies in the franchise. I will say, it was nice to
get a female main villain for once, and the reveal of Elektra showing her father's broach
was really well done.
 
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Off topic: How do you use the blurring text version of the spoiler tag? I tried editing my post a few times to get it to work but I can only figure out the botton type of spoiler.
 

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For me, The World is Not Enough is the series at its lowest point. Really good title song though.
 

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I rewatched Spectre the other day in prep for my viewing of No Time to Die on Saturday morning. I actually quite like the film up until the point where Madeline gets kidnapped

I like it (more or less) to the point when they're going to Blofeld's hideout. Really, what was their plan and what were they thinking?
The whole finale is one of the most bland and boring finales of action movie I've ever seen.

Still like it a little bit more than previous one. Sheer stupidity of Skyfall is unmatched.

CR 10/10, QoS 9/10, Skyfalll 5/10, Spectre 5/10.

Have not seen previous movies for the last 20 years and I don't intend to.
 
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