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The more I think about it, the more stupid this casting is. It may well be positive for girls. But it is not positive for boys. Has anyone even considered that in the decision-making process?
Imagine being a 10 year old boy who is a Doctor Who fan. Imagine now the teasing and catcalls on the playground. "Are you going to turn into a woman too?" "Gay!" etc. Kids are cruel. A positive male role model who doesn't use his fists to solve problems or to get the girl or to save the galaxy has been turned into a woman. Doh!
The new companion has a lot of responsibility on his shoulders, as he's got to be the new role model. Hope he's up to the task.
(07-17-2017, 02:59 AM)dangermouse Wrote: [ -> ]A positive male role model who doesn't use his fists to solve problems

Unless you're a racist... Wink
(07-17-2017, 02:59 AM)dangermouse Wrote: [ -> ]The more I think about it, the more stupid this casting is. It may well be positive for girls. But it is not positive for boys. Has anyone even considered that in the decision-making process?
Imagine being a 10 year old boy who is a Doctor Who fan. Imagine now the teasing and catcalls on the playground. "Are you going to turn into a woman too?" "Gay!" etc. Kids are cruel. A positive male role model who doesn't use his fists to solve problems or to get the girl or to save the galaxy has been turned into a woman. Doh!
The new companion has a lot of responsibility on his shoulders, as he's got to be the new role model. Hope he's up to the task.

So a woman can't be a role model? 

Holy shit what year is it?
(07-17-2017, 02:59 AM)dangermouse Wrote: [ -> ]The more I think about it, the more stupid this casting is. It may well be positive for girls. But it is not positive for boys. Has anyone even considered that in the decision-making process?
Imagine being a 10 year old boy who is a Doctor Who fan. Imagine now the teasing and catcalls on the playground. "Are you going to turn into a woman too?" "Gay!" etc. Kids are cruel. A positive male role model who doesn't use his fists to solve problems or to get the girl or to save the galaxy has been turned into a woman. Doh!
The new companion has a lot of responsibility on his shoulders, as he's got to be the new role model. Hope he's up to the task.

I legitimately can't tell if this is sarcasm.
(07-17-2017, 02:59 AM)dangermouse Wrote: [ -> ]Imagine being a 10 year old boy who is a Doctor Who fan. Imagine now the teasing and catcalls on the playground. "Are you going to turn into a woman too?" "Gay!" etc. Kids are cruel. A positive male role model who doesn't use his fists to solve problems or to get the girl or to save the galaxy has been turned into a woman. Doh!
The new companion has a lot of responsibility on his shoulders, as he's got to be the new role model. Hope he's up to the task.

This is just an ignorant comment. It's in the same vein as, "Why should there be Black Pride Month? We should get White Pride Month too!" or "Black Lives Matter is stupid! All lives matter! We'll completely ignore the fact that most white people stopped by the police aren't shot on sight." (Yes I'm exaggerating to an extent, but hopefully you get the point.)

Why can't a young boy look up to a female Doctor Who? If she's a good person who has good morals, then who cares if DW is male or female? Also, we've had over 50 years of young girls having to look up to a male Doctor, and it hasn't done them any harm.
(07-17-2017, 08:05 AM)Q2 Wrote: [ -> ]Also, we've had over 50 years of young girls having to look up to a male Doctor, and it hasn't done them any harm.

Well said.
I'm glad to see that most of us are better than the internet...

I'm sad to see we aren't all better than the internet.
, are we assuming the new companion is going to be a male?  Why not have two women traveling together (like Clara and Me)?

Am I weird for being a SuperMAN fan and watching SuperGIRL on TV?  My friends certainly don't make fun of me, but granted we are adults.

For the kids, I think the lesson has to be that a hero does not need to be gender specific.  This decision has nothing to do with pandering, but a legitimate evolution of the character.  It's 2017 and people are in an uproar about a female Doctor?  

And please, don't give me the whole "does that mean James Bond should be a woman" argument.  In this case, when you aren't dealing with a gender specific character and dealing with a character that has the ability to turn into a woman, make it so then.  Also, don't bring up the Ghostbusters argument either because that is it's own bag of nonsense when it comes to trying to poorly prove a point and then failing.

We're talking about a fictional ALIEN here.  

Granted, the backlash is par for the course when it comes to casting a new Doctor, but it just feels a bit more elevated given that the role is going to a woman, which is sad, but it will be awesome when the 13th Doctor kicks ass!
Good grief. Are you guys seriously so dumb that you don't realise how this can be a problem? Do none of you have boys or even remember what it is to be a boy? Or are you just so swamped by GroupThink that it is impossible to do anything than be wildly giddy at "woman is doctor" news. Me happy! Me with rest of world. Me no need to think.
I thought maybe there would be some considered reflection, at least on this site. But no, I get the condescending "I can't tell if this is legitimate", "It's 2017" and "But I like watching girl characters". 

This is grandstanding by the Beeb, pure and simple. There is no in-universe reason for the doctor to suddenly be a woman.
And I would be quite happy to watch a female Bond, and I very much enjoyed the female Luke Skywalker in the form of Rey. I'm not against solid woman lead characters. But I remember well what it was like to be a boy, especially a boy interested in SciFi. You're already a target. And then making your hero suddenly a woman will open you to all sorts of teasing and bullying. We already had such great female co-leads in River, Martha, Clara, Amy, Donna, and even Rose. Why the desperate need to "woman-wash" the Doctor (as I saw one wag put it)?
If you guys are deliriously happy about this announcement, great. But do understand that there a good reasons why this may be a very foolish move, and bleating a knee-jerk "misogynist" or "Victorian prude" etc. just makes you look a bit of a jerk.
Careful...