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As was mentioned ^^ 'Enemy of the World' is excellent but due to what I can only assume was a rush release for the 50th Anniversary contains none of the usual fascinating extra features. Might wanna hold off for a SE version of that release?

I've also been trying to catchup on the classic era pieces that I've missed. From what I've seen I'd buy anything that has Pertwee in it. Especially the Joe Grant run. She had such a great chemistry with Pertwee. His stories seem to capture something magical between deep and serious political allegory and good plain goofy fun. This is probably down to the team of Terence Dicks and Barry Letts. I can reccomend...

Colony in Space
The Dæmons
Day of the Daleks
The Sea Devils
The Mutants
Planet of the Spiders


From the other Doctors, I'd reccomend these from what hasn't already been mentioned...

The Keys of Marinus (William Hartnell)
The Krotons (Patrick Troughton)
The Seeds of Death (Patrick Troughton)
The Sun Makers (Tom Baker)
City of Death (Tom Baker)
The King's Demons (Peter Davison)
Warriors of the Deep (Peter Davison)
Attack of the Cybermen (Colin Baker)
Time and the Rani (Sylvester McCoy)
Silver Nemesis (Sylvester McCoy)
The Curse of Fenric (Sylvester McCoy)

Generally, the Leela run with Tom Baker and Ace and McCoy are highlihts for me. This video has probably been posted before but it gives a nice glimpse at all the serials...

Re Web of Fear: I have held off on that for now, as episode 3 (the one where the Brig, then Col. Lethbridge-Stewart) first appears, is currently missing. Rumors are rife that it has since been found and/or was withheld at the time for some unknown reason (be it failed negotiations, too much damage to be ready in time, or something else), so I am holding off until there's definitive word about whether it will appear. I have seen clips, though, and it (the story, not ep 3 -- sorry for any confusion!) looks fantastic.

Also, its beginning is a direct continuation of Enemy of the World, so they are meant to be a set, and hopefully will be a complete one some day...

I am not terribly familiar with Colin Baker or McCoy's runs, though I did go to an outdoor convention in Connecticut when I was a kid where I got to hear Colin speak (in the rain). I remember when someone asked him if he was related to Tom, he said, "He's my grandfather!' (two regenerations apart = grandfather...). I have seen The Two Doctors and liked most of it -- the first nine minutes, which feature Troughton and Jamie together in the old TARDIS, start in black and white and are magical. I've also seen Remembrance of the Daleks from McCoy and was riveted from start to finish, which is no mean feat considering they probably spent a total of $50 on it ;-)

I do quite like Anthony Ainley as The Master -- he is very good at emulating Delgado without overtly copying him, though he plays The Master as a bit more unhinged (though not as much as John Simm in NuWho). I mostly know him from Davison's run, and I think they had very good chemistry. Most of the Turlough episodes of Davison's run are quite good too, IMHO -- he has one of the most interesting stories of all the companions.

Tom has so many stories -- good, bad, and everything in between -- but you're almost always guaranteed a good performance from him, and he's probably the one actor who played The Doctor most like himself (and has admitted as much). Fortunately, he's a very interesting, eccentric, and captivating person in real life as well...

I totally agree about Pertwee, BTW -- it was a great, great era. My wife and I actually prefer Liz Shaw to Jo Grant, since she (at least at first) was a scientist who could (almost) keep up with The Doctor; later, she became a scientist who more often was relegated to fetching tea, which I thought was a shame. Jo starts off as a bit of a dimwit, but she does grow over the course of her run, and I thought that she actually made some meaningful contributions in some of the stories. His Sarah Jane stories were few, but also good overall, I think; I particularly liked her introduction as a "modern woman" of the 1980s (the UNIT stories in this era are supposed to be set a few years in the future) in The Time Warrior. Also, Pertwee was a consummate comedian before becoming The Doctor, and the role allowed him to capitalize on that (particularly in his interactions with the Brig) while at the same time drawing on his real-life love of gadgets and his (then very well-concealed) past as an actual spy in WWII.
My newest Dr. Who dvds arrived yesterday...

Cracked open the Beneath the Surface collection and watched THE SILURIANS last night -- really enjoyed it! Never seen it before and it was cool to see how it connects to the Matt Smith era. Hope to watch THE SEA DEVILS tonight.

Also opened the New Beginnings collection, and watch the documentary A NEW BODY AT LAST. I am always stunned and amazed at how direct and honest the interviewed actors, producers and writers are on these Dr. Who dvd! It not something I am used to seeing, particularly in American tv show dvd sets... you would rarely hear an actor or producer express their dislike for each other or how difficult they were to work with... it is very refreshing.

Only 3 more days til the new adventures begin....
I'm not sure what to think about this. It wasn't a bad episode. Jenny, Strax, and Vastra were great as always. The plot felt incomplete to me. Maybe we'll get more details later in the season that'll better flesh it out. But as a single story, it wasn't particularly compelling. The Doctor had moments that were absolutely in keeping with the character... and a lot that felt wrong to me. Perhaps my untrained American ears are partially to blame for not immediately warming to Capaldi; I couldn't understand maybe 25% of his dialogue. The season story arc they seem to be setting up has potential, though. I'll keep on going, but my excitement levels have dropped by a fair margin. 6/10
Deep Breath just finished.

I will try to keep my comments general but there may be some very minor spoilers. ;-)

A strong debut for Capaldi but a middle of the road plot over all.

Regeneration episodes are my least favourite both of the new and old series (though Matt Smith's Eleventh Hour may be the best of the bunch imo) as they all have to follow the same general formula.

I really enjoyed Clara's performance, I think she really drove this episode. Her scene with Vash was great and when she thought the Doctor abandoned her was amazing.

Capaldi himself brings a new energy to the role. Though it is hard to completely judge since he really does not come into his own til the last 10-15 minutes. I look forward to the next couple episodes to see how his character evolves. Though I though Moffat hammered home the point that this may be a darker Doctor way too much.

I liked the re-introduced mystery of who is helping the Doctor and Clara. It gives me hope Moffat does have an actual master story plan.

The direction, editing, staging and cinematography felt a bit off to me, particularly for a big premiere relaunch episode. It almost had a low budget feel. Some of the fx looked bad compared to previous seasons, and the big battle between the robots and Vash and the gang looked very awkward and reminded me of the wobbly soundstage days.... lol.

I loved the last scene with the Doctor

or should I say DOCTORS
and Clara was brilliant. It worked on many levels... connecting/wrapping up a past mystery scene, the passing of the baton and reassuring the audience that no matter the new face, mannerisms or accent ("I am Scottish! Now I can complain!" LOL), at his hearts and soul, the Doctor is still the same Time Lord.

I would give it a low 7 out of 10. :thumb:
I think this is one that will reward repeated viewing. I too struggled a bit with some of the lines, but I found that to be due (as it was in several of the last Matt Smith episodes) to the music being too high in the mix. I generally do not have a problem understanding Capaldi, but there were times I missed lines from him, as well as several other characters. I thought it was a nice touch when

Vastra calms him down by speaking in a Scottish accent, particularly since it allowed Neve McIntosh, who plays Vastra, to speak in her natural accent for once
.

I also think the pacing of the episode -- longer scenes, with moments of breakneck action instead of a rollercoaster all the way through -- makes a nice change, and at times hearkens back to the classic era (and the running time is just about equivalent to a three-parter from the classic era). I hope they keep that up, as it allows the actors more room to breathe (no pun intended) and the characters more room to develop. I think that's one reason Clara comes across so well here -- for the first time, she actually has time to be a character, and not just a mystery/plot device.

One puzzling bit was

Matt claiming that his time wasn't long when he looked like the young Eleven, since we see him age so radically before he actually begins regenerating in the previous episode. Unless he called right before he met Clara and fully regenerated (since he technically had two regen scenes), it seems to me to be a bit of an oversight, possibly to ease the transition for the really young fans who have never known another Doctor.

I would not count the episode among the best of the best, but I think it was a solid introduction overall that shows that, despite the fears of some fans, Moffat hasn't yet completely lost the plot -- we will apparently get some development out of

who gave Clara the TARDIS's number, which was one of the huge dangling plot holes from last season
. There are many moments that suggest that Capaldi could be truly great (as expected, but nice to be confirmed), and I'm looking forward to what comes next.

Also, Bob, your Trek bias is showing -- I love Vash too, but I think you meant Vastra ;-)
hebrides Wrote:Also, Bob, your Trek bias is showing -- I love Vash too, but I think you meant Vastra ;-)


Oops! :lol::lol::lol:
bionicbob Wrote:A strong debut for Capaldi but a middle of the road plot over all.

Glad it wasn't just me then. Capaldi was absolutely fantastic, so why was he only in half of it and absent/asleep for the rest? The whole script seemed to be about re-assuring the shows newer fair-weather fans (through Clara) instead of reassuring them by being a great episode. Hopefully things will settle down now that's out of the way and we can enjoy the rest of the series.

bionicbob Wrote:The direction, editing, staging and cinematography felt a bit off to me, particularly for a big premiere relaunch episode. It almost had a low budget feel. Some of the fx looked bad compared to previous seasons, and the big battle between the robots and Vash and the gang looked very awkward and reminded me of the wobbly soundstage days.... lol.

It was not only Ben Wheatley's first Who but his first Sci-Fi and FX shoot as far as I can work out. His direction and camera positions were woeful. It was all very slap-dash and his inexperience showed in shots like the extreme closeups of Strax's makeup peeling off :oops:. Sadly he's directed the next episode too. It wasn't just his fault though, the FX team are to blame as well. The scene of The Doctor on the roof looking at the T-Rex was so badly aligned. The Doctor was staring off to the left and the T-Rex was in the middle :x.

bionicbob Wrote:I loved the last scene with the Doctor

I hated it because again it was all about reassuring the fair-weather fans. Jamming in a cameo just shouted uncertainty to me. There was no need to be cautious, Capaldi rocked.

matrixgrindhouse Wrote:Jenny, Strax, and Vastra were great as always.

Strax was funny but I couldn't care less about the other two. Why was the whole episode about them instead of The Doctor? He was the only thing I wanted to see.

matrixgrindhouse Wrote:Perhaps my untrained American ears are partially to blame for not immediately warming to Capaldi; I couldn't understand maybe 25% of his dialogue. The season story arc they seem to be setting up has potential, though. I'll keep on going, but my excitement levels have dropped by a fair margin. 6/10

It wasn't just you, I had a little trouble understanding Capaldi too and I live on the border with Scotland. Nothing to do with his performance, I just think the soundmixing or the sound-recording was very poorly done.
It sounded fine on my 5.1 system; can't vouch for stereo. Then again, my standards for "bad Doctor Who audio mixing" were set by Series 1. That had a really overblown music to dialogue ratio.

You put it perfectly, [MENTION=24292]TM2YC[/MENTION]. They kept telling us that things were still the same, but it never felt the same. It reminds me a lot of that first special with Tennant. He was unconscious for most of it as well, with Micky and the rest getting the bulk of the screen time. At the end, he promised things would still be "fantastic" - a catchphrase that was instantly abandoned thereafter. It sends a very bad message for the audience they're targeting. New fans shouldn't be led to believe that he'll just be Matt in a new body. The Doctor is more complicated than that. The Eleventh Hour was a much, much better example of doing that right. The bit at the end, where The Doctor summons the hostile fleet back to Earth, and warns them that it is protected? That tells us that he is still The Doctor. Getting another farewell from Matt was touching, but it left me in the exact opposite emotional state that they should have. We're supposed to be looking forward to getting to know this new face, these new mannerisms. Instead, I was left with bittersweet nostalgia. I actively thought to myself, "I really wish he hadn't quit." The Amy callback left a similar impression.

And I'm with you all on the effects issues. I can live with CGI dinosaurs looking fake, but they couldn't even get the elevator (sorry, lift) dangling scene to look convincing. I couldn't help but imagine Peter slowly standing up from a crouch out of frame. I'm concerned that the last few specials got the production crew too accustomed to higher effects budgets that they no longer have access to.