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That's people for you. All of that is perfectly plausible particularly when you are dealing with 'TV Reality' regarding the conversation for the example.
[quote=veggieguy12]The last episode aired was 209, "Triggerfinger".


[QUOTE]In it, Glen, Rick, and Hershel are surrounded by an advancing horde of zombies, and they spend a couple minutes debating whether and how to save a teen who's leg is impaled, though that teen was earlier trying to kill them? [/QUOTE]

Well, yes. The point is, this team are not heartless, soulless bastards. They AREN'T Shane or the people who attacked them. Hershel believes everyone has a reason to live as he is a man of God.

[QUOTE]The foreigners who find that trio in the bar attempt (unsuccessfully) to get their weapons pointed at the guys, though that's really unlikely to result in them getting them the info on the group's farm hideout. (You can threaten the hostage to get his info, but that's it - the hostage knows you can't actually go through with the threat, or you'll never have the info. Better would be to leave quietly, and secretly track the trio back to wherever.) [/QUOTE]

This conversation was the best bit about it. Desperate men. It showed that Rick had changed and was prepared to defend his clan from the outside...that the real danger was not walkers, but humans. That in fact, these new guys were just desperate - although admittedly they were painted rather poorly - illustrated by the fat guy urinating.


[QUOTE]Laurie, the pregnant mother, tells nobody when she leaves her child and risks her life in an attempt to find her husband - who may be dead, or not where she expects him.[/QUOTE]
Agree on this. Most of us seem to be baffled by Laurie's actions here.

[QUOTE] And the people who came looking for the two 'bar intruders' behaved in a way I also find unrealistic, speaking right outside the door for Rick, Hersh, and Glen to hear, then shooting wildly (and unseen) into the bar, rather than just let people exit and shoot them (or force a surrender). [/QUOTE]

You're making the mistake of thinking these are cool calculated people. Would you be? In a village about to be overrun by Zombies?

[QUOTE]And Glen shat his pants and froze behind the dumpster, then fired off his shotgun from a distance, though he was still apparently effective at hitting the brain and stopping the zombies.[/QUOTE]
This was explained in the episode. But yea, Glen was a crackshot later, but the threat was human when he froze.....


[QUOTE] Laurie evades one attacking zombie and, while stopping and staring at the body, is attacked from behind.[/QUOTE]
See above on Laurie.

[QUOTE]Carol, distraught over her zombie-daughter's death, wanders a short distance from camp to punch & pull grass - despite the typical (not-so) surprise danger of pop-up zombie attacks? [/QUOTE]
Grief. Do you know it?

[QUOTE]Despite his increasing instability & threatening action to the group, nobody has gone out on a mission with Shane and killed him, simply reporting back to the group that he got bit or accidentally shot himself?[/QUOTE]
That's because no-one wants to believe what Shane is becoming! Plus of course there are some people who believe he is right. Shane is an emerging threat and was once the trusted left-hand man of Rick. They're like best friends! So why would they go out and kill him? THAT would make no sense.


[QUOTE] Who would burn the calories and waste the energy to bury those zombie bodies? Was it four graves they dug? I just can't believe that stuff.[/QUOTE]
Disease, infection. SMELL?????


It strikes me that you seem to miss the subtleness of this show. That you have in your mind how you might respond and then apply to all the characters. With one notable exception, I've always felt that TWD portrays a very real and well written response to a Zombie outbreak. The characters, their developments and interactions are a million miles away from something as shallow and daft as Terra Nova.
white43 Wrote:I've always felt that TWD portrays a very real and well written response to a Zombie outbreak. The characters, their developments and interactions are a million miles away from something as shallow and daft as Terra Nova.

yes, yes and yes!
white43 Wrote:It strikes me that you seem to miss the subtleness of this show. That you have in your mind how you might respond and then apply to all the characters. With one notable exception, I've always felt that TWD portrays a very real and well written response to a Zombie outbreak. The characters, their developments and interactions are a million miles away from something as shallow and daft as Terra Nova.

Agreed. I find the show very well written. The reveal in the barn was heart breaking. And the tension in the bar in the season 2.5 opener? Chilling. I was on the edge of my seat sweating bullets.
Well, I'm glad you guys enjoy the show. I love "Breaking Bad" and "The Wire", which may have some stretches of reality, which I can forgive.
I don't forgive what I already mentioned about "The Walking Dead", but watch the show nonetheless.
In regard to your second point I really think you need to get out more.
When the whole group lets the farm girl walk, blubbering, to the zombie-corpse of her mother, only to have it (predictably) try to attack her, well...:-o
I just don't think it's realistic (within the context of a zombie apocalypse), they already know that the brains must be damaged to stop the zombies, they already have had surprise encounters with seemingly dead bodies, etc.. If you appreciated that scene, fine. "That's just, like, your opinion, man."
I'm not sure I understand the connection between my viewpoint and my 'getting out', but I actually travel extensively, and usually by unconventional means.
I've never encountered any zombies, if that's what you mean... Thanks for the concern, though, dude! Wink
The point is that humanity has a very wide spectrum and the actions of the people in the show is completely within that remit, just because it doesn't compute for you doesn't mean it is invalid.
Veggieguy12, you like the wire huh?

nOmArch Wrote:...humanity has a very wide spectrum... just because it doesn't compute for you doesn't mean it is invalid.

I wrote that I find the characters incredible, not that the show is invalid; fantastical hypothetical/imaginary scenarios are totally 'valid'.
But with what you're saying, I do wonder how & when you'd determine something to be a bit far-fetched or outright ridiculous.
I won't keep going back-and-forth over it, but I imagine you'd call bullshit on a scene of someone aggrieved or shocked by a death simply sitting down in the midst of a burning house. The range of human emotion doesn't excuse that kind of behavior, for me. If the characters are depressed to the point of reckless disregard for their lives, that's one thing - but they're all actively struggling to survive, then some (Dale seems to be one consistent exception) do near-suicidal stuff.
I don't buy it. But thanks for engaging me on it, I've appreciated considering your perspective. Smile
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