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I'll only watch the Nostalgia Critic again if he reviews Stargate, and then only to gauge the depth of his "analysis".
He got mad at Fantastic Four because they didn't fight crime. That's when I gave up.

His Adam Sandler song is kinda catchy though, and it pops in my head sometimes
(04-02-2020, 02:46 PM)jrWHAG42 Wrote: [ -> ]He got mad at Fantastic Four because they didn't fight crime. That's when I gave up.

Well I mean... He's not wrong Big Grin

It's kinda like how in Ang Lee's Hulk he didn't smash enough. Now okay admittedly Fantastic Four is much better than Hulk '03. Ugh. The slowest pacing ever, the completely inconsistent tone & style... What a complete mess of a movie.

I think the Tim Story Fantastic Four films get a bad wrap anyway. They weren't very good of course, but they certainly weren't bad either. I've been thinking of making a 2-in-1 standalone edit of those films for a while now.
(04-02-2020, 06:54 PM)Masirimso17 Wrote: [ -> ]Now okay admittedly Fantastic Four is much better than Hulk '03. Ugh. The slowest pacing ever, the completely inconsistent tone & style... What a complete mess of a movie.

You mean a sober, downbeat meditation on inter-generational violence and trauma, paired with a critique of the military-industrial complex, isn't a great fit for gimmicky, gee-whiz split-screen montages designed to evoke the inherent silliness of comic books?! Tongue

I've wondered if that sort of editing style might actually work in, say, an MCU flick. First Class used something similar to pretty neat effect, but only during a training montage. We'll see... unless we don't, I guess.
But the thing is, the Fantastic Four were never about fighting crim. Not just that, but most modern Superhero movies featuring no crime fighting aside from big villains. It's not a fair critique. I love both 2000s Fantastic Four movies. Arguments can be made for their flaws, but this isn't one of them.
(04-02-2020, 07:14 PM)Gaith Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2020, 06:54 PM)Masirimso17 Wrote: [ -> ]Now okay admittedly Fantastic Four is much better than Hulk '03. Ugh. The slowest pacing ever, the completely inconsistent tone & style... What a complete mess of a movie.

You mean a sober, downbeat meditation on inter-generational violence and trauma, paired with a critique of the military-industrial complex, isn't a great fit for gimmicky, gee-whiz split-screen montages designed to evoke the inherent silliness of comic books?! Tongue

Bingo Wink plus Hulk dogs, weird superpowers and silly action Big Grin I should give it a rewatch because I haven't really tried to understand the story fully tbh, I was 14 or something and I was bored out of my mind lol.

But I absolutely loved Tomahawk's Incredible Hulk Extended Edition which is also a slow paced, character driven Hulk movie which worked for me (IT WAS MUCH MORE BALANCED THO). Not to be confused with the theatrical cut which is a barebones Zak Penn first draft version of the same story, which is decent but not as good as the Ed Norton rewrite in my opinion.
(04-02-2020, 07:32 PM)jrWHAG42 Wrote: [ -> ]But the thing is, the Fantastic Four were never about fighting crim. Not just that, but most modern Superhero movies featuring no crime fighting aside from big villains. It's not a fair critique. I love both 2000s Fantastic Four movies. Arguments can be made for their flaws, but this isn't one of them.

I guess so but I suppose what Mr. Walker meant in his review is not that they don't fight thugs or save people or whatever like Superman or Spider-Man, but that there isn't much agency in the movie because all they do is quarrel with each other or try to be normal again until (and during) Dr. Doom's revenge. However it's been a while since I last saw them, so until I rewatch them for my eventual 2-in-1 edit, I'll take your word for it Wink

But really it isn't until Rise of the Silver Surfer that they do what they should be doing, which is use their science and powers to protect Earth from extra-terrestrial/inter-dimensional threats, while also trying to be a family. Come to think of it I always liked Silver Surfer. It's not the most logical or best written superhero movie by a long shot, but it's a fun kids/family movie with a good enough message and high enough stakes. You can't go wrong with that Big Grin

I'm pretty sure if Silver Surfer released today within the MCU, it would get good reviews and be ranked alongside Marvel movies like Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, Thor 1, Captain America 1, etc.
(04-02-2020, 08:23 PM)Masirimso17 Wrote: [ -> ]Bingo Wink plus Hulk dogs, weird superpowers and silly action Big Grin I should give it a rewatch because I haven't really tried to understand the story fully tbh, I was 14 or something and I was bored out of my mind lol.

Nah, just watch Oliver Harper's review. I first saw the movie at about the same age, and from what I recall, it's exactly as he says it is. Tongue

I used to be obsessed with this movie. I dug up an old promotional shirt for it from when my mother worked at the movie theater, and I would wear it all the time, and talk about the movie all the time. I didn't care much for the movie, but I liked to pretend and tell others that it was fine art.
I love Aimee Mann. I love Paul Thomas Anderson. And I love Magnolia. It’s not a movie I can rewatch often but I love it. And I’m squarely with Ebert on this one.