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its funny i never saw Patton as the villain just a catalyst or maybe an anti-Costner showing what Costner could turn into if he went down the same road as Patton, whereas the real Villain and Hero was Costner himself.

My take on the movie has always been that Costner was a bit pathetic, a drifter, a low level con-man going through life hating it but never really being bothered to actually do anything about it. and through the movie is taught (first by Patton and then a more personal Lesson by the woman and then the Pony Express riders) that self worth and standing up for things you believe in is a good and worthy cause and in the end make a big difference.

did Costner really need to take over three hours to tell this story? almost certainly no but its one of my guilty pleasures and if i need to reaffirm my faith in human nature i find this movie to be pretty good medicine.
nOmArch Wrote:never knew so many people hated the postman most people i talk to generally quite like it, at least more so than Waterworld.
That's weird. I've never even heard of anyone even remotely enjoying this film until this thread. As a general tendency, I don't think this impression is too far off. RottenTomatoes has an extremely low 10% favourable (0% if you count only top critics), and those 10% are mainly due to critics like the ones from "Spirituality and Practice" (praising its message of "hope"). Focus group criticism.

Then again, the user ratings are consistently higher at both RT and IMDb, so it obviously has some fans. And Variety (the only critics I actually trust, as they've seen EVERYTHING and seem to be above and beyond the peer pressure butchering that often happens to nigh-universally panned flicks (like the underrated Showgirls)) actually seemed to like it. http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117906 ... id=31&cs=1

I almost want to see the film now. Almost.
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theslime Wrote:That's weird. I've never even heard of anyone even remotely enjoying this film until this thread. As a general tendency, I don't think this impression is too far off. RottenTomatoes has an extremely low 10% favourable (0% if you count only top critics), and those 10% are mainly due to critics like the ones from "Spirituality and Practice" (praising its message of "hope"). Focus group criticism.

Then again, the user ratings are consistently higher at both RT and IMDb, so it obviously has some fans. And Variety (the only critics I actually trust, as they've seen EVERYTHING and seem to be above and beyond the peer pressure butchering that often happens to nigh-universally panned flicks (like the underrated Showgirls)) actually seemed to like it. http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117906 ... id=31&cs=1

I almost want to see the film now. Almost.

phew after all that research I think you should probably just watch the movie and then make up your own mind Confusedmile:
Hah, that took me all of five minutes. As opposed to the three (loooong, if people are to be believed) hours I'll have to devote to the actual film. But I'm considering it. Wink
yes its definitely a slow burner, which is funny cos movies like that usually bore the crap outta but for some reason this one got under my skin. like i said its a guilty pleasure but the only way you'll ever know is by watching it yourself.

give it a try, take a risk you might be pleasantly surprised... or not. Smile
About halfway through The Collector and I had to turn the damn player off... so god damn terrible, it's a joke. Tongue
And hey, Mr. Director: why does every shot have to be an extreme closeup, a super-slowmo scene, or a full camera tilt around the fricken room?! :x


Think I'll rewatch Fantastic Mr Fox again. Confusedmile:
(plus it'll get that pseudo-horror bullsh*t outta my mind)
I watched Fantastic Mr. Fox over the weekend and wasn't impressed. It wasn't awful or anything, and the animation was done well, but it was a thoroughly uninteresting film. As far as I'm concerned Wes Anderson can just stop making movies now.

I started to watch Black Dynamite but fell asleep about 20 minutes in. This kind of movie can be amusing for a short period, but after awhile it gets very old and I just didn't care.
I found the same thing with Black Dynamite, its subtly funny but not amusing enough to actually make me wanna watch the whole movie in one go.
I loved how they got that 70's blaxploitation feel for Black Dynamite but it just wasn't as good as I was expecting it to be.