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(03-01-2019, 08:42 AM)KoDomino Wrote: [ -> ]Do you think season 2 can save this series? I heard they might cancel the series, I hope not.

It was announced two days ago it was renewed for a season 3.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-f...ss-1180555
(03-01-2019, 08:53 AM)Q2 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-01-2019, 08:42 AM)KoDomino Wrote: [ -> ]Do you think season 2 can save this series? I heard they might cancel the series, I hope not.

It was announced two days ago it was renewed for a season 3.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-f...ss-1180555

Thanks so much for the update, I didn't see that article yet. This is some great news.
(02-10-2019, 11:52 AM)bionicbob Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks my friend.

In other news, there could be major news about the re-merger of Viacom and CBS in coming days or weeks...
https://trekmovie.com/2018/09/06/reports-cbs-in-talks-to-end-shareholder-lawsuit-with-viacom-merger-on-hold-moonves-negotiating-exit/

If this happens, it would put all Star Trek properties back together in a single pot.  It would remove some of the storytelling handcuffs Discovery has to endure.
I imagine it would be a massive boon for the upcoming PICARD series as well.

I hope so! I don't want any continuity entanglements keeping the Picard series from being the best show possible.

I've heard practically nothing good about the first season of Discovery. Is it possible to jump into Season 2 and have any idea what's going on?

Also, I hope everything is OK for you and your daughter.
(03-01-2019, 11:51 AM)TomH1138 Wrote: [ -> ]I've heard practically nothing good about the first season of Discovery. Is it possible to jump into Season 2 and have any idea what's going on?

Also, I hope everything is OK for you and your daughter.

There are good moments, even great ones, in Discovery season one but they are hampered imo by a show with serious identity issues and unearned accelerated story/character arcs.  But it is in many respects still better than Next Generation season one, so make what you will of that.

I think you could just go into season two, as most episodes have a "Previously Recap", and still understand the basic plot, though you may find some of the character's confusing if you are not aware of their past histories and relationships.

Thank You for your concern.  Our trip to the Mayo Clinic was a positive experience.  While we did not end up with a magic miracle cure, we finally have some definitive answers and a clear direction to pursue.  Before we were stumbling around lost in the dark, now we can see a glimmer of hope at the end of a very long road.  Never Retreat, Never Surrender!!!  Wink
(03-01-2019, 07:27 PM)bionicbob Wrote: [ -> ]There are good moments, even great ones, in Discovery season one but they are hampered imo by a show with serious identity issues and unearned accelerated story/character arcs.  But it is in many respects still better than Next Generation season one, so make what you will of that.

This is exactly how I feel about season 1 of Discovery. There are some exceptional moments and characters, but overall the season had some major problems/missteps. I haven't yet started season 2, but I'm looking forward to it based on your comments, bob. Smile
(03-01-2019, 07:32 PM)ThrowgnCpr Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-01-2019, 07:27 PM)bionicbob Wrote: [ -> ]There are good moments, even great ones, in Discovery season one but they are hampered imo by a show with serious identity issues and unearned accelerated story/character arcs.  But it is in many respects still better than Next Generation season one, so make what you will of that.

This is exactly how I feel about season 1 of Discovery. There are some exceptional moments and characters, but overall the season had some major problems/missteps. I haven't yet started season 2, but I'm looking forward to it based on your comments, bob. Smile

I think you will enjoy it.  The improvement is dramatic.  It feels like a show with actual focus.  Hopefully it will stick to its landing.

I think the biggest improvement is embracing that it is a PREQUEL, a lesson that Enterprise took four seasons to learn.  If you are going to set a story in the time of Captain Pike and Lt. Spock, then use them, don't try to pretend to be clever and coy and awkwardly dance around it.  That never, ever works.  And instead of treating Trek lore as a hinderance, use it to your advantage to make the show feel like it is part of a larger tapestry.  

So far, season two has been a real fun watch.  Unlike most of season one, this feels like Star Trek.  Big Grin
With my recent travels and Real World stuff, I have fallen behind on my postings.... 
So here are the Warp Notes....

Ep.4 - "An Obol of Charon"
--Rebecca Romijin cameos as Number One, and steals her brief scene from the amazing Pike!  I vote for her to be the new Disco Captain for season three!!!  More retro-cons, Pike orders the holo-systems to be removed from the Enterprise
--Disco bumps into a giant planet sized alien orb artifact, havoc reigns on the ship and Saru suddenly becomes deathly ill (shades of Amok Time, anyone?)... it is clear the producers are attempting to eat their cake too, by trying to create traditional Trek stories (in this instance, an alien first contact puzzle mystery) that are all tied directly to the over arching Red Angel arc... while it works, it all feels typically Disco rushed and never breathes the way I would like.
--a powerfully emotional scene with Burnham and Saru, I love how this friendship has evolved!
--Tilley and her ghost May storyline reveals that the Mycelial Universe is occupied by sentient life, and by travelling through it the Disco is doing unforeseen damage.... thus cementing further why it is not used by Kirk's time?

Ep.5 - "Saints of Imperfection"
--Tyler rejoins the Disco crew, and Pike instantly does not like him
--Mirrorvese Georgiou is back, and the producers are trying very hard to make her likeable... isn't she a mass murdering tyrant?
--Through some very confusing new age technobabble a crew member returns from the dead
--some very cool psychedelic visuals and ticking clock drama

Ep.6 - "The Sounds of Thunder" 
--The Red Angels bring the Disco crew to Saru's home world for a sequel of sorts to his Short Treks story... everything is connected!
--The Prime Directive exists solely for it to be broken lol.  Seriously, this is very richly layered and complicated story in classic Trek fashion, of how the sins of the past continue to shape our choices.  We learn startling secrets about Saru's people and their oppressors and as usual Doug Jones performance rules the screen.  He deserves an Emmy nomination.
--The B Story, about our returned beloved crew member asks the questions about what truly defines us an individual
-- I think this is my favourite episode so far this season.

Ep.7 - "Lights and Shadows"
--A time-whimey episode that could be entitled, 'How Pike and Tyler became Buddies"
--Strange production design choice as the probe looks EXACTLY like the Matrix movies Squids???
--More Section 31 non-sense... I really find this plot line unneeded and uninteresting... based on what I have seen so far, I really do NOT want a Section 31 spin-off show.
--We finally meet Spock...sort of... since he is currently a passenger on the Crazy Train to Lunaticville.
--Amanda and Sarek return, their dynamic is very 'fascinating' to watch, do Vulcans have couple counselling?
--hhhmmmm...... I thought in Journey to Babel, Spock has not seen is pappy in like 18 years?
--I loved how the producers had Tilly acknowledging she is trying to not use the F-Bomb anymore lol
--looks like next episode we finally learn something about bridge crew officer Airiam -- what is she? A robot? Cyber augmented life form?
--this episode was juggling way too many balls for me, each story felt under developed... but this seems to be the normal cinematic high speed narrative the show prefers... 
--bomb shell cliffhanger.... wait for it..... TELOS IV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The season isn't over yet, so it might be a bit early to ask this question. I haven't watched season 2 at all (and have only seen the free CBS preview of the first episodes of season 1), but I came up with an idea for a fanedit based on the marketing of season 2.

My idea is to make an approximately two-hour movie out of season 2, in which Captain Pike is the protagonist (and all scenes not featuring him that aren't 100% necessary to further the plot are cut), Spock is removed entirely, all plot threads that build upon events from season 1 (such as anything having to do with the mirror universe) are removed, and the crew of the Discovery are reduced to supporting characters (or maybe even cameos). 

Based on the episodes that have been released so far, does it appear that this might be possible?
At this point, I do not know... Blush ...but probably not.

Based on the set up so far, I think Spock may prove integral to the Red Angel arc resolution... I do not want to go into Spoiler Territory but most of this season has been built around Discovery trying to find Spock.

And despite any marketing, Michael is still main driving character.  Discovery, unlike past Trek, is not a Captain centric show.

As with most serial tv fan edit projects, I think we will have to wait to the finale and build any movie style edit working backwards from there.
...looks like we may be finally getting some answers next episode...

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